Airport Fingerprinting

Airport Fingerprinting

In a recent news article on USA Today it is revealed, that the US government plans to fingerprint U.S. residents with green cards, parolees and Canadians. Until recently Canadians and Mexicans were the only foreign nationalities that did not have to go through this procedure.

Remarkable is this sentence "The purpose of the program is to screen out criminals and make sure that travel documents aren't forged." (cited)

Or translated, this means: Canadians and green card holders are suspicious and more likely to be crimanals then Mexican citizens and U.S. citizens. Hm. Lets continue to read:

"Canadians — including nurses, agricultural workers, students and religious workers — will be required to enroll" (cited)

So Nurses, Farmers, Students and Priests are more likely to commit crimes then people with other professions?

Doing a couple of quick google searches, I came up with this site. From this website it is obvious that the Homicide rate in Canada is quite a bit lower than that in the USA or in Mexico. In fact of the worst places for Homicide, Mexico ranks number 6 after Columbia, South Africa, Jamaica and Venezuela.

Disclaimer: I have come to know the United States, Canada AND Mexico as wonderful places with friendly people. I have never felt unsafe in any of the three countries! I am merely trying to point out that some of the classifications are not really transparent to most of us.


LOL

Thank god we are safe from those evil Canadian nurses.

How ridiculous.

what is this world turning

what is this world turning into?

Every country has the right

Every country has the right to protect its borders any way it chooses to. If you don't like it, don't come. I for one think its another step in the right direction.

The whole world knows every

The whole world knows every country can do whatever they like. whats the point of your making that statement.

Re: The whole world knows every

callis wrote:

The whole world knows every country can do whatever they like. whats the point of your making that statement.

The point is that it is a small inconvenience that is nothing compared to the security gained from this. 

Re: The whole world knows every

vader wrote:

The point is that it is a small inconvenience that is nothing compared to the security gained from this. 

I guess YOU are really missing the point. 

In my initial post I did never complain about border security, but I did outline the differences being made based on ones job and nationality, which appear to be completely random.

Furthermore, I am not aware that this high level of security has caught a lot of bad guys. The only thing is a lot of inconvenience for travelers and many people who have chosen to visit other countries instead. I think its bad for businesses. 

Andre

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very bad for business ,

very bad for business , people want to have a good time when the travel, no one wants to be treated as a virus. the criminals will always fine ways to get around what ever system that is implemented. 

wohoo

Anything to protect the

Anything to protect the borders is acceptable in my opinion.  There are crazy people out there that want to kill people with planes.  Something must be done to keep air travel safe.  I see a day in the future where we'll all be required to strip, be searched, be given a hospital gown and booties to wear on the plane, and have our clothes returned to us when we reach our destination.  Even that, in my opinion, is acceptable if that's what it comes to.

And a little off topic here...... Does anyone know what they do if you cannot be fingerprinted?  I have a friend who has two artificial arms.  Would he be denied air travel because of his disability?  That would be discrimination wouldn't it?

protect your borders yes

protect your borders yes but do you really think its going to be people from other countries trying to bomb the usa what are you going to do about people who are within the usa who want to destroy the country. 

 this is going way over board.

I see a day in the future where we'll all be required to strip, be searched, be given a hospital gown and booties to wear on the plane, and have our clothes returned to us when we reach our destination.  Even that, in my opinion, is acceptable if that's what it comes to.

Wow

Marsha wrote:

I see a day in the future where we'll all be required to strip, be searched, be given a hospital gown and booties to wear on the plane, and have our clothes returned to us when we reach our destination. Even that, in my opinion, is acceptable if that's what it comes to.

I am amazed, that you are willing to surrender your civil rights and your freedom for the illusion of safety. Do you believe everything the governments media outlets spoonfeed you?

Lets face it. This recent planned attack has only served the purpose to disctract from some other issues and given more support to those politians that radicalize the nations. No I am not saying it isn't true that something was planned, but I am encouraging you to ask questions and use your own mind instead of believing everything. Look around you and open your eyes.

The terrorists were caught by secret service investigations. Immediately calls by some british politians were made to increase surveilance of their people. Spying on citizens by listening to their phone calls now has a much broader support by the people than before, how convenient.

Sure, I don't want to die either, but fact is:

The probabilty of dying in a plane crash due to a technical failure is much higher than dying in a terrorist attack, yet most of us still choose to fly.

After the metro and bus bombings in GB, why is noone strip searching people using these forms of mass transportation.

Are you really willing to give up all these rights, just for the illusion of savetey, because 100% protection will never exist!

I have grown up without being completely free in a regime that did not tolerate privacy and freedom of speech. People have died for those rights that we are now willing to surrender so freely. Doesn't this mean that the terrorists have won? Isn't our freedom our most cherished possesion? Shouldn't we proudly lift our heads and say "You don't scare us"?

I don't mind being fingerprinted and searched, but I am defenitely too proud for what you are suggesting.

Since 9/11 I'm pretty much

Since 9/11 I'm pretty much in favor of absolutely ANYTHING that will keep it from ever happening again.  They bombed 2 well know buildings where they knew there would be thousands of people, and they used our own planes as the bombs.  I'm not sure I'll ever see another day when I'm not afraid to fly.   

While I agree that our freedom is important, I don't think it's our most cherished thing.  My life, my family, and our safety are way more important to me.  Maybe i'm in the minority with my opinions, but I'm in favor of anything that can be done to help prevent this kind of tragedy from ever happening again.

How can I lift my head and say "You don't scare me".  In reality, I'm scared to death most of the time.  I'm more the type to cry in a corner and say "somebody do something."  And when somebody tries to do something that will help, they're gonna get my support. 

andre wrote:

I am amazed, that you are willing to surrender your civil rights and your freedom for the illusion of safety. Do you believe everything the governments media outlets spoonfeed you?

Lets face it. This recent planned attack has only served the purpose to disctract from some other issues and given more support to those politians that radicalize the nations. No I am not saying it isn't true that something was planned, but I am encouraging you to ask questions and use your own mind instead of believing everything. Look around you and open your eyes.

The terrorists were caught by secret service investigations. Immediately calls by some british politians were made to increase surveilance of their people. Spying on citizens by listening to their phone calls now has a much broader support by the people than before, how convenient.

Sure, I don't want to die either, but fact is:

The probabilty of dying in a plane crash due to a technical failure is much higher than dying in a terrorist attack, yet most of us still choose to fly.

After the metro and bus bombings in GB, why is noone strip searching people using these forms of mass transportation.

Are you really willing to give up all these rights, just for the illusion of savetey, because 100% protection will never exist!

I have grown up without being completely free in a regime that did not tolerate privacy and freedom of speech. People have died for those rights that we are now willing to surrender so freely. Doesn't this mean that the terrorists have won? Isn't our freedom our most cherished possesion? Shouldn't we proudly lift our heads and say "You don't scare us"?

I don't mind being fingerprinted and searched, but I am defenitely too proud for what you are suggesting.

The chance of anything

The chance of anything happening is almost non-existent. You still choose to fly, even though planes do crash. You still get into your car, even though you may be hit by someone. Would you be willing to go through all of this on a daily basis?

Someone could choose to blow a bomb in your local grocery store, your stadium, your town fare, a nearby concert ... bascially anything where there are a large number of people. 

Would you be willing to get naked for all of those?

If not, why? You could loose your live at any of those.

People get killed by other people with guns every day. Would you like to be strip searched after leaving your house to see if you have a gun?

All I am saying is, I am not that scared, that I am willing to give up on everything I love for a miniscule better chance to survive. 

Why don't you sit in a room with padded walls all day and don't go out? Certainly your chances of being hit by a car are much lower now? 

Security was already good enough to catch the guys. Why increase it and make our lives harder?

Andre

 

I agree with Andre.

I agree with Andre. Unconsciously, many of the people really don't consider that much the recent bombings and killings otherwise, they would have been stucked up in their own residences. We might be afraid but we aren't willing to really do everything just to be safe. We desire freedom more than anything else and are still willing to take the risk.

Hate to bring up an old

Hate to bring up an old topic, but I am starting to get tired of all this fingerprinting luggage sniffing, data transmitting stuff. Makes one want to avoid certain countries.

ID card for Canadian travel

Canada's national agency trade group, the Association of Canadian Travel Agencies, said that it is offering a photo ID card to all Canadian travel sellers who satisfy minimum productivity and other requirements, effective immediately.

The announcement comes only weeks after ARTA announced it would work with trade associations in the U.S. and Canada in an effort to create a new ID card for travel sellers as well as a new system of numeric codes for sellers who do not issue airline tickets.

In remarks reminiscent of ARTA's announcement, Christiane Theberge, ACTA's president and CEO, said, "ACTA has decided it's time for the Canadian travel industry to manage its own affairs." Source: Newsbeyond.com

Finger printing is not

Finger printing is not about preventing crime or border control. Thats what they want to make you think. They tell you it's for your own safety etc...

I have studied in the fields of digital technology, product prototyping/development and if anything, fingerprinting is likely to cause poeple to be set up for crimes they did not commit, and it is highly likely the government will use the fingerprinting technology for their own illegal means.

Fingerprints can be replicated easily, over and over again, i can replicate digital fingerprints from my own home practicaly as can the majority of digital technologists, forensic scientists etc..People need to know this fact, yet it is never brought up by the media and certainly will not be an issue brought up by the government. If i had access to the government database of fingerprints i could finely replicate someone elses unique identification, and use it for whatever means i wish. I could also do this with a google image of a fingerprint.

The people that really need to be finerprinted are given the diplomatic passes (they are usshered through airport security like they have halos above their heads). People need to waken up to reality.

What r my chances of

What r my chances of getting a job at gate gourmet after finger prints with old background.

Anonymous wrote:What r my

Anonymous wrote:
What r my chances of getting a job at gate gourmet after finger prints with old background.